Hattrick

FogToo · Post by **FogToo** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:16

This is a thread to exchange knowhow and tip in the online football manager game www.hattrick.org
You start with a poor team in low league in your country.. Takes some time before you get your team, as there need to be enough for another division or someone skips his team and it gets "unsupported" you will be able to take control of it...
The game is a bit hard at start, since you don't get that much help from Hattrick itself. And there is alot you need to take care of.. a season is 14 weeks, and how you promote and demote depends on which league you are in..

My team is LastRavnFlying (196276) VII.402 in Denmark

Schmidter · Post by **Schmidter** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:27

I just begun playing Hattrick to

One of my friends are playing it, so he suggested me to play to, I won my first game 2-0, so am proud of that

Just think I have made a mistake of bidding to much on a player, not to good, but what the f****

If you wanna help a bit here at start, you are very welcome

:P

And btw my team is Bonderøvene! The greatest team ever! **** (stars)

Im playing in league 8 something VIII.865 And I can see your players are very good, nice playing there!

you gotta learn me some tricks sometime

:) That could be great!

FogToo · Post by **FogToo** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 17:14

to find out which players should have which skill and how he is to be played is very tough at start.. You have names for skills, but you really don't know how good they are..
There are lots of programs out there which can convert there skill into a number, which makes it a little easier to play them..
I use Hattrick manager and Hattrick Assistant Manager
The first is a very easy to use program and easy to set up your formation. The last is more advanced and provides a matchviewer.
It is very important that if you use any programs to know that they do not set up your formation for the next match.. Only gives you a number on how good the team setup would be "estimated"..

Well Schmidter.. I can't and I won't tell you how to play your team

but if you come with some more specific questions I might be able to answer

Schmidter · Post by **Schmidter** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:17

Okay!

First of all...

:)

What is important to have in STATS when playing what system?

How Important is TSI?

What is nessesary to have when playing back, central back, left and right, midfielder, wing, and attacker?

For example, should I maybe choose a player who have acceptable in goalscoring, but bad passing, ore one whos good at bot, but only acceptable!?

How to know what is best? Can it only be tested in games?

And will it be a good ide, if a wing also is a good goalscorer, to make him a specific order ro be exstra attacker? oR WILL IT RUIN THE GAME, IF I PLAY ATTACK ON SIDES?...

opus sorry capslock!...

And right back i have to extra midfielder, can that ruin the play, give some unballance?...

what specific orders is good to use with for example a back that also is good for midfielder, a wing that is also good for attacker? An attacker there is also good as midfielder?...

Ive hplayed the first with all normal, I couldnt do otherwise, but now its time to experiment, but could be nice, to get some HINTS, what to do and not to do, dont wish te relegate from my league!

That would suck! Im using SOME time now trying to find out what is best, but takes so long for matches to come, irritates me, that I cant find out what is best right NOW, so I change and change, maybe I have changed it so now its very bad! .-O And it was good before and so on...

Dont hope its to many questions at once

SOME MORE EDIT:

Also how helpfull is the manager programs you gave links to?

Ive gotta try them of course, but maybe It could be better not to try them??

EDIT EDIT:

Aslo what program is good to what, and what program do you use the most?

FogToo · Post by **FogToo** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 18:49

Schmidter wrote:Okay!

First of all... :)

What is important to have in STATS when playing what system?

OK first of all.. RTFM
It says what skills are needed for what type of player.. It can be somewhat hard to understand since you are new, and the manual isn't newbiefriendly..
You can find most of the game techniques here
What stats are needed for a player playing on a specific place can be somewhat confusing at first, but when you have worked with it a little you quickly discover that for each player there is only a few nessecary skills needed..
First of all do you have your interface danish or english ? It can be even more confusing if i tell you the english name and you have it in danish. So first of all make sure you have the english version

the obvious stats are easy to understand.. It is the sideskills that causes trouble

Schmidter wrote:How Important is TSI?

TSI stands for Total Skill Index and is a way to see if a player is about to pop, meaning he rises a skill level in that skill which is trained. It is difficult to say what TSI means, because the form of the player can change several 1000 if he is poor form or he is passable..

Schmidter wrote:What is nessesary to have when playing back, central back, left and right, midfielder, wing, and attacker?

same as before.. Read here

Schmidter wrote:For example, should I maybe choose a player who have acceptable in goalscoring, but bad passing, ore one whos good at bot, but only acceptable!? How to know what is best? Can it only be tested in games?

Main skill is "almost" the most important if you play a "normal" game, meaning you are not playing any type of tactics.. Sideskills is nice and usefull. But can be very expensive.
You can by using different programs like HM and HAM get an estimated result of a certain formation with the fielded players.

Schmidter wrote:And will it be a good ide, if a wing also is a good goalscorer, to make him a specific order ro be exstra attacker? oR WILL IT RUIN THE GAME, IF I PLAY ATTACK ON SIDES?...

GE (The Game Engine) makes some calculations based on the fielded players + a random factor. But most important is to own the midfield, or own in defence and attack. Most people have best luck with the formation 3-5-2 since owning the midfield yields the best results. As it is now this is by far the best solution for most players.
But again it depends on what you want to train.

Schmidter wrote:And right back i have to extra midfielder, can that ruin the play, give some unballance?...

You can have a maximum of 5 defenders/5 midfielders/3 attackers if you want to make sure you don't loose training and at the same time get experience with that formation. If you play more than 3 central you risk getting confused and loose all training that week

Schmidter wrote:what specific orders is good to use with for example a back that also is good for midfielder, a wing that is also good for attacker? An attacker there is also good as midfielder?...

If you play defenders offensive you get more bonus for his playmaking skill, and that way strengthen the midfield. If you play midfielders offensive/defensive you get more bonus from defending/scoring skill and increases your overall defence/attack, but at the same time decreases your midfield.
How you shall play a specific player depends on what your goal is..

Schmidter wrote:Ive hplayed the first with all normal, I couldnt do otherwise, but now its time to experiment, but could be nice, to get some HINTS, what to do and not to do, dont wish te relegate from my league! That would suck! Im using SOME time now trying to find out what is best, but takes so long for matches to come, irritates me, that I cant find out what is best right NOW, so I change and change, maybe I have changed it so now its very bad! .-O And it was good before and so on...

How to play your team depends very much on their skill.. I can't say that there are any rule that says if he has those stats you should play him like that.. It is a feeling, and you need to learn where your players play best..

Schmidter wrote:Dont hope its to many questions at once

I can manage

Schmidter wrote:Also how helpfull is the manager programs you gave links to? Ive gotta try them of course, but maybe It could be better not to try them??

I found them very usefull at the start and I still use them.. They are not that important, but gives you information on how long you have trained different things and stats. How your squad form and such thing..
The mainthing is for a new player is that they give each player a number when you place him on the field, so that you know how good he is.. It can be difficult to see from a skill level as a newcommer

Schmidter wrote:Aslo what program is good to what, and what program do you use the most?

I use HAM mostly since it has most stats, but is more advanced than HM.. I would recommend HM for new players.. Simply because it us more userfriendly.. Both are avalible in most languages that Hattrick supports

Schmidter · Post by **Schmidter** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 21:40

Got 1 very important question! HOW do i find out what my security code is??? WHERE can I find that???

FogToo · Post by **FogToo** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 21:59

Your security code is what you decide it should be..
Under "my hattrick - preferences" at the right side there is a link called Security code.
There you write your normal code and what you want your security code to be.. Just as I replied in your PM

Your security code is what you decide.. It is not given by anyone at any time..
The security code is a read only code..

Schmidter · Post by **Schmidter** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 23:11

Have a question!

It is because I have 2 midfielders, that are okay,l but the ydont play so well on the midfield! They both have GOD in danish in skills in spilfordeling, but they dont perform very well! I havent set them defensive or attacking or anything, cause they are only good at spilfordeling! Does anyone knows, if it will improve their playing by making them attacking or anything?

FogToo · Post by **FogToo** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 23:25

They are proberbly just having a very low form.. Form is what have the biggest influence on how good a pleyer is performing..
If your midfielders is solid (god) but don't have either winger (fløj), scoring (målscoring), or defending (forsvar) you are proberbly best of by having them normal..
Although if you play them either offensive or defensive, you will still give a bonus in either end..

Schmidter · Post by **Schmidter** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 0:10

hehe okay

I just let them stay as they are then

Yeah there forms have been going down now heres at this training, it sucks that al my inner midfielders are in bad shape, when that is the most important places!?

But hope win anyway!

I have tryed to remake my formation lioke 1000 times

Dont knowwha will work, the one moment I think the 1 thing is the best, the other moment the other

At last I just set them all to normal, that was like the SAFE thing to do...

Even though I think with my 3-5-2 formation with 3 inner defenders I will get to bad defense on the sides, therefore I haev tryed to put them on going wing, but that is maybe crazy for doing that as inner defenders, even though they are okay at backs and wing backs? But I think it wil bo to bad if I oly have 1 inner defender, so I am bit in a dilemma, but just gotta try and see what will work the best, but if you have an ide of what you think will work best, you can always say

FogToo · Post by **FogToo** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:28

The best way to see how your players will perform is the trial and error.. I can't say how to play your players.. It depends on what type of skills they have

When playing in the lower leagues you will proberble not run into to many games, where your opponent will play another formation compaired to your special orders

Schmidter · Post by **Schmidter** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 13:35

I just had a quick question! Anyonw know what time a day there is MOST players online in hattrick?

FOr knowing what time to sell players!

Ancsur2002 · Post by **Ancsur2002** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 20:59

LOL my bf have just started playing this game

funny

FogToo · Post by **FogToo** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:27

@Schmidter Depends where you live.. The Most active time around the world is AFAIR 20:00 local time.. So if you want to buy in USA you get most players available 24:00 CET ? And if you want Australian league you want to buy 12:00 CET ? Correct me if im wrong

But im sure you get the point

Pater Alf · Post by **Pater Alf** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:16

Is anyone else still playing this? I took over a team about ten days ago and so far I was able to win one league match and lost the other. I'm still trying to find out which skills are most important and should be trained first. I also want to get rid of some old players (unfortunately noone wants to buy them) and replace them with talented 17 and 18 year old players (which you can get for less money then well-trained mid-age players).

Fun so far and even more fun when you have some friends who play as well, so you can exchange informations and challenge each other in friendly matches.

If anyone else is playing or is interested in general: My team is called "Roter Stern Friesland" and my manager name is Pater_Alf.

Usul · Post by **Usul** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 20:30

Pater Alf's team is still alive an kicking. Mine too: 1. FC Arrakis, ID: 1153176...VII.772