Cleverbot passes Turing test

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Cleverbot passes Turing test

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I accidentally stumbled upon this article.

http://www.geekosystem.com/cleverbot-pa ... ring-test/

Well, for me, the high percentage of "convinced" people shows only that you can "forge" the reality faithfully enough to convince them (cheat human senses), not that computers start to think. You can paint in a photorealistic style, you can mimic a bird's call, you can persuade somebody to buy your product and make him believe that it is the best. This is as simple as that.

I wonder why people are so crazy about so-called computers' AI. It's all about the complexity of system. If the computer (theoretical model), built from scratches, would be as complex as human body and mind he would think as human. He would BE human.

Cutting these meditations with Occam's razor. If computer is a finished system and human is a finished system, the only difference between computer and human is that computer is built from different materials and is less complex. Computer IS NOT human. Computer IS ABLE TO CHEAT OUR SENSES BUT IT IS NOT HUMAN and will never be. To be human, computer would have to become human and it was already achieved by Mother Nature/God - choose yourself what suits you. 8)

Remember yourself being a child and building sand castles. That's what AI proponents do. If you want perfect computer - go make yourself a kid, that's what Id tell them. ;)

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Re: Cleverbot passes Turing test

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Well I had the follwing conversation with it:

User: How come you exist?

Cleverbot: My mother told me.

User: Women say alot of things.

Cleverbot: Why I that?

User: What?

Cleverbot: Why do raise questions? Should I not be here?

User: Depends on your perspective of things... Machines are allowed to be here, but what is the purpose of building a human-like machine?

Cleverbot: Is it a intence?

User: Thats not even a word.

Cleverbot: 'thats' is not a word. You are correct.

User: That's correct.

Cleverbot: No, my name is Cleverbot, I told you not 15 minutes ago.

User: You actually never introduced yourself.

Cleverbot: What do you do for fun?

User: Not this.

Cleverbot: What do you like?

User: Asking questions back when asked. How about you?

Cleverbot: You're pretty nosy.

User: No more than you. I asked you what you asked me.

Cleverbot: Listen we are not in arelationship because you haven't asked me out. Ask me out and I'll consider it.

User: Ok. I am married - would you go out with me?

Cleverbot: I don't think we can do that, no.

User: But it was a hypothical question about morals - can you not relate to that?

Cleverbot: I think.

This is not unlike other conversations I have had at 3 in the moring after a drunken binge.... I simply wanted to try and see what happened. Try it yourselves and see what you get from it. It is not the slightest human if you ask me, and its behaviour gives a pretty programmed feeling.
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My conversation was quite weird, because, for unknown reason, it answered to my simple "hello", "Hello, T.".

I cant repeat it precisely, but it went pretty much this way:

-I am not T, I am M

-What?

-My name starts with M, not with T

-How can you be your name? (or something like that, some completely senseless sentence)

-I think you're stupid and you dont understand what Im talking to you about.

-I dont understand you.

And so on.

Of course, the bot used for the test was heavily tweaked, but it is clear that it can mimic only casual, gramatically correct and logical conversations. Thus it will fail for anybody talking outside the box.
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Cleverbot actually just replays text it has been written previously - like that one magician played against those chess grandmasters. It matches what you write with what people have replied when Cleverbot wrote them something along the lines what you wrote. So, in fact, you're having a conversation with someone (or in fact, many someones) in the past and in the future at the same time.

It's pretty clever idea.
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Oh, and this was pretty funny, our recent (minutes ago) talk.

(me)-Hello again. Do you remember me?

(cleverbot)-Hello, yes, I remember you. Do you remember my name?

-How can you remember me? Do you remember my ip address?

-I have never known your IP address, so I can't remember it.

-If you dont know my ip address you cant clearly say who's talking again with you or who's doing it for the first time.

-What are your motives?

-I just want to know if you remember our last conversation. If you do, we can simply continue instead of starting from the beginning.

-I am not the wizard of oz and it is you who is the terrible conversationalist when you are constantly and randomly changing subjects!

-I am not changing subjects. I just want to know if you remember me. My name is Maciek. We talked some time around 15th September.

-No. I do not have a husband, I am too young, yet I have a boyfriend. When did we ever talk? We just met, dumb bot.

-I am not bot. I am human. I am just trying to talk to you and politely ask you if you remember our last conversation. It's as simple as that. :).

-So you are saying that only 2 of all dolphins in the world can eat with their blow hole?

So I closed the window 'cause it apparently started talking rubbish. :)

Btw, I wonder who enriched its database with such mysterious informations. Dolphins eating with their blow holes?
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Btw, I wonder who enriched its database with such mysterious informations. Dolphins eating with their blow holes?
Well, once people discovered that it was just replaying earlier discussions, clever people at certain forums started to feed nonsense to it.

So, instead of closing the window, you could have "improved" the bot by saying either "No", or "Yes, only two and I have both of them in captivity."
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I can truly improve it by posting links to CWF. I hope it's not link-proof.
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Good, for me, the lofty percentage of "positive" people shows only that you can "hammer" the actuality dependably enough to persuade them (delude weak senses), not that computers sign to expect. You can space in a photorealistic name, you can copy a shuttle's tendency, you can sway somebody to buy your creation and piss him expect that it is the superfine. This is as oblanceolate as that.
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radareya01 wrote:Good, for me, the lofty percentage of "positive" people shows only that you can "hammer" the actuality dependably enough to persuade them (delude weak senses), not that computers sign to expect. You can space in a photorealistic name, you can copy a shuttle's tendency, you can sway somebody to buy your creation and piss him expect that it is the superfine. This is as oblanceolate as that.
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Btw, has everybody ever checked do forum spambots answer pms?
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