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Post by Chroelle »

I am looking for ideas on how to make points on the main page.

So far I haven't thought much about this, but I'm thinking:

Games reviewing
Games submitting

And of course helping the site out. It should be possible for all mods to give out points for special help. Maybe a quota of 100 points a month pr mod or something.

All feedback welcome :wink:
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Well.. How much space do we have.. I reckon that someone might begin uploading like 10GB of abandonware ?
Reviewing is a much better idea, but then again, why have reviews without the games ? :)
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i was thinking about the same...

but insted of another point race why not just make a counter insted...
im against point....
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Oh, but uploads have to be okay'ed by the admins. Mostly we are talking freeware, but of course some old games that are free to use and have with no ties to copyright would be ok. I'm not going to risk a penalty with this...

Pepsi I'm not sure I understand what you mean by counter vs. points. You mean that it should say below your name how many submissions you have made? Cause that would actually be cool.
Example:

Game submissions: 2 (Total of 200MB's)
Review submissions: 15

Then we should just make a harsh judgement system on reviewsubmissions....(Hmmm...I wonder if Scythe is busy :D) so that people don't just submit 1-liner reviews and then add to their submissions that way.

@FT: The amount of space that we have depends on the income we can generate through this site.... If we can get 99,- a month generated then we got 3 GB, but it adds up so that we have to buy 3 gigs at 99 kr. a month everytime. So basicly we are talking 3 GB's to start out with and then we can see where we are going from there.

Still we need to figure out how the income is generated...
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The point system in og version generates hundreds of spammy posts per month. So the idea of gaining points only for submissions/reviews is ok. Submission/review counter would be really cool, I agree there, that would say people who is really doing a good job for the site...

Do you plan to allow attaching reviews in other languages too?
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Multiple languages would be great.. As long as there is someone about to read and validate the submissions.. :)
I also hated the fact that there was 1million submissions in the same game.. I doubt anyone actually read all the submissions before choosing to download a particular game :)
Well keeping the forum alive is an achivement itself isn't it ?.. :)
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Chroelle wrote:so that people don't just submit 1-liner reviews and then add to their submissions that way
Just make a limitation, similar to og, f.e. submissions uder 15 linex of text arent accepted.

There's one danger however. I dont know how will this site evolve, but I presume there'll be tens, if not hundreds, simple arcade and mario-like games. It's not an easy task to write a review of jump'n'run game, especially if the game is nothing special. In result, a long review can be worse than the short one. This should be deeply discussed.
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You may also need to make provisions for those people, like me, who couldn't write a quality review in a pink fit. If the only way to get points is by submissions, then that could leave a bunch of us on the outer.

Perhaps some points on the forums, but only in areas that demand quality posts. For example in OG such a system would leave out the Town Hall and OGC, but include the games indepth forum, the Senate and MAU.

Just an idea.
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Do you plan to allow attaching reviews in other languages too?
Yes, as soon as we can figure out the way to make a submissions page work (reviews only), there will be made a thread concerning which languages should be available.
I think there should be only a few languages (read: no more than 10-12).
I also hated the fact that there was 1million submissions in the same game
Yes, and that will be dealt with here. We will set a limit as to how many reviews are allowed pr game, pr language. This should stop that problem.
So you gotta be quick.
There's one danger however. I dont know how will this site evolve, but I presume there'll be tens, if not hundreds, simple arcade and mario-like games. It's not an easy task to write a review of jump'n'run game, especially if the game is nothing special. In result, a long review can be worse than the short one. This should be deeply discussed.
Well, so far there will be only a few games, to get us started. I think that it is vital for us to keep game-stock at a low level so far, so we dont have to go buy extremely large bandwiths, and such, in the very beginning. Games will be voted in, and voted off the site, so that should take care of some of the Mario-type games. Basically we want the games that coul be fun to find. We will make our nieche. QUALITY FREEWARE GAMES! Not just hundreds of jump and runs, but great quality like Trackmania Nations, which is the first game to be released on this site.
You may also need to make provisions for those people, like me, who couldn't write a quality review in a pink fit.
As soon as we get the pointssystem up and running we will make some threads about how to earn points... So far we haven't even figured out what the points should be used for??? :D
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Prideth wrote:You may also need to make provisions for those people, like me, who couldn't write a quality review in a pink fit. If the only way to get points is by submissions, then that could leave a bunch of us on the outer.

Perhaps some points on the forums, but only in areas that demand quality posts. For example in OG such a system would leave out the Town Hall and OGC, but include the games indepth forum, the Senate and MAU.

Just an idea.
And then there are people, like me, who in addition to not being able to write reviews are also incapable of truly intellectual discussion... ^^;

*sigh*

I personally find that forum participation in general would be nice to be rewarded, but I cannot deny giving 'points' for all posts would create a more than adequate supply of spam. Shucks. :L
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Post by Tinoco »

Humm since our ranks depend on how homless we are, a think we should be awarded "bucks" or some other monetary simbol :p

About the points earning I have a sugestion, besides the participarion on reviews, uploads, moderating and other activities we could make a prize for the posters, each time you reach say 30 posts you can award say 5 pts to the users you want (not to yourself) this way the points will reflect if you are somebody people like and whose participarion is recognized or not... What do you think!
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IMO that sounds like a good idea Tinoco! :D A bit like BD, where you can give other users one population point up or down.. :D
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Isn't it popularity points :D

But anyway... Maybe an idea. I just can't help but feel that that exact point makes it harder for newbies to feel welcome.

Maybe if we could make it another way, or maybe that people could be awarded in other ways.
Like I wrote somewhere (totally lost track of where I post stuff ATM....I need a sitempa :D ) it could be some sort of monetary pointssystem that would give you the option of buying stuff. Like a subforum of your choice, where you are the mod. A CD-ROM with all the games on or something like that... Any suggestions on what the points should be good for is welcome.
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Post by Tinoco »

Hum... perhaps... but since the rankings relate to profetions and stuff perhaps the points system could be like a wage or someting awarding participation... about you awarding your post earned pts that might work even for newbies since you would certaily award that first point to a nice "homeless" asking for some dow to Dl a game ;) But that was the background of my idea, to adapt the point system to the ranks system ;)
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That sounds pretty good actually - the wage idea. The biggest problem might be that if the wage was to rise as you rose in rank, then members who have been here for months/years will have an enormous amount of gold.
Maybe we should figure out what the points get you first....
At the moment we are talking of getting points, but we haven't found anything to use the points for.

I can say that it will be possible to award people with email-adresses that ends with the domainname in here. (Maybe I will move this to a different domain at some point.)
Other than that I can't really imagine what we could offer people.
Their own subforum maybe... A crew-position... But these things are all related to dedication. Why would one want to stay for a longer period if it seemed like everybody was way ahead of you???

Suggestions people.
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Post by Tinoco »

Well at least the points will be an ego growing factor, remember its a gamers forum so gamers like to earn pts... :p

You could also make store for people win and lose pts like Casinos, "paid" forum games, contests, downloads...etc... etc...

About the pts just make them hard to get so people wont go to far ;)
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True... I like the ego building factor too.
The casino idea could be an idea, but I don't know if I can do it....
Then there is the paying forum games. We have a slight problem with that since it's FREEware we are dealing with here...
But maybe we could do some things on forum that cost money/points...
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Post by Tinoco »

Yep remeber I'm not talking of paid as in real money but rather you must "spend" some of your points to participate on somtinhg, I think its a good way of esuring quality participation ;)
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True... :D
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Post by eMTe »

To summarize the hitherto ideas:

Points earning:

-reviews submitting
-games submitting
-help in building good site and forum

Points usage:

-ego growing
-playing online games

I agree with Tinoco here, we should go into BlackDiamond's direction - you can spend your virtual money on playing online games (if you put them here).

You can make some separate meters - f.e. one for reviews/games submissions and one for playing games... Dont know what for, but it is some idea (bad, I know :p). Maybe just for bigger fun. :p