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[UPDATE]

BUGS FOUND THIS FAR:

1. Headers already sent (Usul): Perhaps screenshot thingee related.
2. Search box, searcing with partial name (Usul, eMTe,...): Not really a bug, one can use * as wildcard, but it should be explained better. I do not want to use 'part of name search' as default, because I already gave up the case sensitivity, and we have for example game called N. Just think of trying to searh it from huge game database, if all games containing N or n would be listed... All suggestions welcome.
3. Downloads not working (eMTe): Not a bug. DLs are not meant to work on test board, good work anyways :)
4. Screenies moving everything (eMTe): Everything should be gently moved down. If everything was moving to right, then there is something odd going on... I need to investigate it. However it may be I personally have no competence to fix Javascripts... For me screenshits were zooming towards the centeras they should. And rest of the site was being pushed down. That's the way it should work too. Whether it is ugly or not, that's viewers decision of course. But I'm open to all suggestions. Sad part is that I cannot do much about it, because I absolutely suck in jacascript...Spanek?
5. Review not shown after submission (eMTe): Not a bug. Yes reviews need to be validated as Peter Alf said :)
6. Glace screenshot error (eMTe): Some screens are in wrong format, and therefore produce errors. But this was something that should have been fixed by one of my db conversion scripts... Investigation needed. Will be fixwd whenchanges are applied to real site.
7. Game edit too. template->make filename... (Peter Alf): Yes, real bug. These are mostly produced by incomplete pre multilanguage support edits. All pages giving this error should be reported. (Thank's PA) FIXED
8. Some thumbs not shown in 'at spotlights' (Chroelle): Propably caused by the fact that it is testarea. If such things happend after 'new version' is started to be used on real site, then we should be more worried... Good toknow anyways :)
9. News Posters Privs not working (Chroelle): Must be investigated. It propably is a bug. Oh, This was not yet implemented :D
10. Add game tool, giving syntax error (Chroelle): Real error. There was also dozens of other bugs in game adding/editing tool... So please do not use those on real mainsite yet. (FIXED on testarea now)
11. Added game not viewed on site after adding(Chroelle): Propably because game status was accidentally left to 'do not allow dling'. BUT even if it is the case, game adding/editing tool are confusing. Those should be improved at some point. Also status thing should be checked from database to see there is not a bug...
12 Errors on headers when image link is wrong (Peter Alf): Same as 6. However in game edit / add tool there could be a checking system to ensure there really is image where the given link points to... FIXED: added screenie file existence check in game adding tool.

This far it looks ok... I can live with the amount of bugs reported, and I believe I'll get them fixed in a few days, depending on my schedule :)

Oh, is game editing tool tested? And, could you please ensure that info you give with game adding/editing thingee will be updated on site correctly? That's one of the possible, and nasty bugs... Imagine that for some reason, the developer's mail is not written in database... We add 100 new games, without noticing it, and then suddenly someone notices... What happens? Suddenly we need to dig up developer emails for 100 games, find the correct rows from database and update the emails by hand.......

So please check the info with care :)


[/UPDATE]


Testers should now have all rights on site (not on forums) at the dev version.

I assume you all know where the dev site is, right :) (I will not post link because I do not wish to get search engine bots indexing the development version.)

Anyways, some info for testers:

Test everything on site (not on forums). Everything includes 'admin features' too, no matter what their status is claimed to be. You can find a little link at the bottom of each page on dev site, titled as 'Site Control Panel'. That's where the 'admin' features are.

It would perhaps be good if you agreed together who tests what ( although everyone is free to test everything, but that would ensure that at least someone has been testing each feature :) )

And then some 'guidance' what I wish you especially test:
1. First test normal operation. Think how those things are expected to be used.
2. Perform following tests for all places where you can submit something:
a) Test using single and double quote(s) in text. (" and ' mark(s) ) (This Is Important test regarding security)
b) Test using backslashes at the end of inputs, as well as in front of t and n characters
c) Try embedding some html code which you assume could break the outlook of the site. (like <hr> (vertical line), <br /> (line ending), </tr> (end of a row in a table), </td> (end of a cell in table)...)
c) finally try giving invalid inputs, like text when numeric values are expected and so on.
3. Test that there is no invalid links.

Please report all errors (or seem to be errors) no matter if it is obvious that the feature is unfinished. (My memory is gone even worse... It's good to remember what I still need to do :) )
You can also report if something seems to be working in a stupid way, or is terribly clumsy to use. It would be great if you also included suggestion how to improve that :)


And have fun, but remember that the dev site is not protected at the moment. IE, anyone who finds it will be able to read everything you have written ;)

And.. Thousand thanks! You do IMPORTANT job :) Testing (especially when someone else but developer does it is IMPORTANT). (If coder himself performs tests, it is obvious for him that site does this or that... But someone else might find it terribly hard to use. Also coder often unconsciously believes that something do work, and forgets to actually check it. After all, I bet that 95% of all errors found after the first 'somehow working' version are to be found by 'end user', unless testing is performed carefully :)

And Sorry if this message looks messy. I posted this using SSH connection to my former workplace's server, and used text based web browser called Lynx to get this posted.... Dont ask why... :evil:
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Oh, and BTW. Please log off from this site before logging in to test site and playing with admin functions.. It is possible I forgot some link to point in here, and I do not wish to accidentally update this site's database :D (If you log off, then there should not be any problems... shouldn't.)
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I have a suggestion concerning the game search box.
One presumes that someone has come to CWF and is looking for a special game and only remembers a part of the name i.e 'Alien Breed' or 'Breed'
(= Alien Breed Obliteration). If you type in only a part of the game's name, the search will give you no entries.

With a small database like at the moment this is no drama but with growing number of games this can become uncomfortable.

Another one:
If you type in the complete name of the game but with marks i.e "Racer", no seach entries either. Personally, I often use the marks when searching something to get the best results.

I tried some links, most of them working fine, but in the Most Popular Downloads-Box (Glace & 7-Zip) there is a box above the CWF logo with warnings i.e. "Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by..." and so on.
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Re: Development Forum - Tester's thread

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Maz wrote:I assume you all know where the dev site is, right :) (I will not post link because I do not wish to get search engine bots indexing the development version.)
I might not be fully awake this morning, but I don´t have the slightest idea where to find the dev site :(. Maybe you can send me the link via PM?
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Mmmm...I think I dont know too. :D

I think there's a link in certain forum, but digging all threads is pointless, so Id like to request pm too if no one minds. :D
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Short report of first impressions, I dont know what should work or what not, so Im reporting everything just in case.

As for search box. Works bad. Typing f.e. Wesnoth gives no entries.

Hav no time atm to check more games, but download link to Sunday Panzers pointed me to empty page with following message: "Fatal error occurred. Doesn't exist."

I submitted review for SPanzers, but after a while there was still no user reviews submitted.

Zooming pictures stretches page content. Everything moves to the right. It looks kinda weird. And ugly. Happened to me with Decker and Cube. With SPanzers everything is OK.
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eMTe wrote:Have no time atm to check more games, but download link to Sunday Panzers pointed me to empty page with following message: "Fatal error occurred. Doesn't exist."
I tried some more and it seems that none of the download link works. Might be because it´s just the test page?
eMTe wrote:I submitted review for SPanzers, but after a while there was still no user reviews submitted.
Reviews have to be validated before they will appear on the info page. I did so and your review of "Sunday Panzers" can be seen now.
eMTe wrote:Zooming pictures stretches page content. Everything moves to the right. It looks kinda weird. And ugly. Happened to me with Decker and Cube. With SPanzers everything is OK.
Same here...
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Maybe i could get the link too.. sorry.. i didnt see the link before either
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Glace infopage - screenies dont work (empty frames, but zoomable) anf following text above page content:

Warning: imagecreatefrompng()... http://s in database!

Maz, if this is standard error text in such case just tell me, I wont copy whole text next time. 8)

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what the f***? .... I knew some screenies were still wrong format, but this particular problem should not exist anymore...

Game search: the partial word search is actually not a bug. But because all of you think it is, I believe I need to do the notice written abowe the box a bit more visible/clear... Any suggestions how?

'headers already sent'. That's a real bug I must investigate.

Downloads do not work on testsite.

But anyways, first real problems are now found out :) I am glad! Testing pays off :)

Anyone played with game adding/editing tool yet? (especially the quote tests are interesting...) (Or other 'admin features'?
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Maz wrote:Anyone played with game adding/editing tool yet? (especially the quote tests are interesting...) (Or other 'admin features'?
I tried, but no matter what I did I always got this message: Template->make_filename(): Error - template file not found:


EDITED By maz for his own reasons...


Might be a bug or might be because I don´t know how to use the tool the right way...

I also tried validating reviews and that one worked fine as far as I can see.


P.S.: Only a small bug, but one of the emoticons doesn´t work. Instead of showing this smilie :lol: there is just the word "laughing".
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Thanks alf! It was a real bug, and that one should be now fixed, so testing can proceed :)

Oh, and kill em all, spare none. errmm.. I mean that don't be afraid of breaking something. If you accidentally break something, it just means there is a flaw. Site MUST NOT be such that members can accidentally break something. And everything in dev board can be sacraficed. You should not really be able to change the code in there, and database is just for testing :)

EDIT: Oh, and smily bug is propably caused by same thing that caused some screenshot problems. It's not related to bug(s), but related to the fact that some images are not uploaded to testarea.

But please keep reporting :) (Although you need not to test the forum there (unless you absolutely want).) And I just wish to remind all of you, that after version 1 is up & running, current testboard will propably be deleted... And so will be the posts... (It does not mean that there cannot be posted, I just wanted you to know so you will not make unnecessary efforts in posting in there :) )
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I did some testing last night when I came home. I was kinda late so I didn't get time to write them in here.

- Some thumbs didn't show AT SPOTLIGHTS, but I am guessing the images uploaded is the problem.

- I teste GH priveleges, and it works easy and like a charm.

- I tested news posters priveleges, and it send me to the front page doing nothing. This might be a bug :D

I of course tried adding a game and got the same error PA did. I will try to go there again now and do it again.
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add game is still not functional...
Add file has same bug.

I tried edit game data without changing anything for Bubblebobble and got this:

Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ';' in on line 592

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I dont have more time for testing today but will return tomorrow. Anything regarding admin-panel/portal that should be tested???
Or is there something other admin-ish that needs my specific attention?
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Well, I found a bunch of errors from edit/add game thingies. I assume it'll take a while before it works... But please test other thing meanwhile :)
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After a few hours of working and watching Superman from TV, I can announce that (most of???) the bugs on game edition have been fixed. It's ready to (re-)enter into test phase.
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I just tried it out and added a game called Testy test. I got it added after checking different numeral/character issues. Like adding "" instead of game proposer id, and so on. Tried typing a few characters too where numerals should be placed (filesize etc). All of them were caught.
Also I said that the game had one screenie, and never told it where and it didn't ask, so there is a bug left.

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Oh...and it didn't show up at the main page as being added either...Adn yes I refreshed the page...:D
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I tried again and added a game called "The unknown game". Tool worked and helped me with some points ("Game Hunter´s ID must be an integer"; "Filesize must be a positive number") when I made entries that were not possible. Game is in the database now and you can see an info page.

Info page shows this message (above the normal page):

Warning: imagecreatefrompng():

EDITED BY Maz

I don´t know what it means, but I think it is because I made some entries (like there are two screenshots, but didn´t gave an adress for them) that were wrong or not specified...
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Updated first post. I used following color codes for testing results:

red. A bug. No questions about that. Must be fixed
green. Was a bug. (is fixed)
blue. Perhaps not a bug, but some actions should be taken to either ensure there's no bugs, or make some things to make usage easier.
Black. Not a bug. However, if you feel shomething should be done, tell it to me :)